[Retraction] Error in Programming

[Retraction] Error in Programming

The editorial board of The Guardian has decided to formally retract the article “Error in Programming.” We have been in several long discussions to decide how to handle this situation. We thank those for speaking up. We agree that this article is inappropriate, rude and not reflective of the caliber of writing we would like to see in The Guardian. I offer my sincere apologies, and I hope you know this article in no way represents the views of myself, the editorial board or the Guardian as a whole.

Laira Martin
Editor in Chief

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  • M

    MaxDec 12, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    I thought it was funny that you said we’re “breeding a world of robots” (referring to computer science majors) when you were most likely forced to push out this massive piece of shit for a deadline without the slightest inkling as to what you were saying.

  • B

    BDec 12, 2013 at 11:50 am

    I found it strange that you would hone in on computer science and ignore the other engineering fields which share the same stereotypes. However, these comments are still incorrect, and as offensive and ignorant as racial slurs. If you actually feel this way, you’re the one who lacks humanity.

  • J

    JimDec 12, 2013 at 9:59 am

    You should really brush up on your grammar…

  • P

    Pull it TogetherDec 11, 2013 at 11:45 pm

    “We agree that this article is inappropriate, rude and not reflective of the caliber of writing we would like to see in The Guardian.”

    I wasn’t aware that you had any kind of standards in your journalism. My friends pick up the Guardian only to play ‘what-did-they-get-wrong-this-time’ and ‘shot-for-every-grammar-error’

  • M

    MDec 11, 2013 at 10:28 pm

    I’m very glad this article was retracted. It shouldn’t have been posted in the first place, but whatever.

    Kevin, I’m a CS major and let me tell you something: my favorite thing to do in the world is NOT coding. Excuse me for not being 100% invested in my major, but I have passions outside of the awesome-ness that is Computer Science. I love to watch TV, go to parties, shop, cook, and hang out with my friends. I met my lovely boyfriend in this major. I met the nicest professors, the best of friends, and so many inspiring topics. Everyone wants everyone to learn and it’s really great when a total stranger explains a concept to you and you just cry because the person was so helpful. I LOVE the fact that I’ll have a job after I graduate. My passion makes bank, so sue me. Your article is a pathetic excuse for failing the Intro to Java course (or one of the other simpler intro courses). You wouldn’t have been able to handle this major anyway. It’s just too damn good for ass-hats like you.

    Glad you’re able to share your opinion, but it was based on total and complete lies. I’m sure you know that. I’m also sure you didn’t meet good people with your experience. Give CS folks another chance, because you have no idea what you’re missing. We all smell the f-ing roses. Except you.

    A total geek.

  • A

    AnonDec 11, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    This rivals the UCLA girl’s rant on Asian Americans in
    terms of stupidity and offensiveness. I really hope that someone is
    fired for this.

  • L

    LDec 11, 2013 at 8:52 pm

    As a CS major, i will gladly make a robot. But I, as a
    freaking human being, have a heart and really take offense at the
    immature and shallow article. Enjoy the robot!

  • N

    NameDec 11, 2013 at 8:49 pm

    He should be fired!!!

    • N

      Name 2Dec 11, 2013 at 8:50 pm

      I totally agree! He should be fired!!

  • D

    DDec 11, 2013 at 8:22 pm

    Wow. What a piece of garbage. I think I just felt some
    brain cells die just from reading it.

  • C

    CDec 11, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Are you kidding me? Yes, let’s all play on stereotypes and
    marginalize a major. I hope you never write for The Guardian again.
    Issue a formal apology.

  • G

    Generic Pre-Med Biology MajorDec 11, 2013 at 8:03 pm

    Are you sure you weren’t talking about me?

  • T

    The Mannican ProgrammerDec 11, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    As I read this atrocious article, the only thing I can
    think of is the Academic Decathlon scene from the movie “Billy
    Madison,” starring Adam Sandler.

  • S

    smell the rosesDec 11, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    No need for the animosity. It’s unfair to make these
    generalizations. I think it’s about time you “smell the goddam

  • C

    cool story broDec 11, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    Why does this exist? There are serious things going on at
    our university and the UC as a whole. It’d be nice if the
    “journalists” who are supposed to keep us informed reported on
    things of more substance than one writer’s impressions of some
    members of a particular major. Go fuck yourself.

  • A

    Aw Poor ThingDec 11, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    All I read was – “I failed a CS class and now I’m
    resentful” No pity.

  • J

    Josh T.Dec 11, 2013 at 7:30 pm

    Dear Mr. Fuhrmann, First I would like to applaud your
    decision to leave the computer science major. It obviously was not
    a good fit for you. You need a role in life where you can “smell
    the roses,” and run around with flowers on your head, prancing
    through fields happiness and sunshine. With unicorns, fairies, and
    tiny little butterflies singing. Hard work, dedication, and love
    for a field is certainly not your forte. But I wonder, while you
    were typing this piece of filth of an article, did you stop to
    think about the keyboard you were using, or the word processor? Did
    you think about the millions of lines of code living on your
    smartphone when you checked your Facebook feed? How about the hours
    of work invested in this very website that now features your
    rubbish of an article? Next time you choose to get the hamsters in
    your head running, why don’t you write a discriminatory and
    prejudice ridden piece about a particular gender, sexual
    orientation, or race. Hopefully then you’ll be firmly kicked in the
    rear and out the door by your “so called” editor, like you should
    have been for writing this piece of garbage. Sincerely, A
    concerned, offended, skydiving, rock climbing, marathon running
    computer science major, that smells the roses.

  • J

    JDec 11, 2013 at 7:00 pm

    Does this article even have a point? There are people like
    this in every major. A person who lacks the brain capacity to
    understand basic programming skills that 12 year olds all over the
    world are learning shouldn’t be allowed to have their thoughts
    published. “I’m not convinced they are actually people” , “That
    doesn’t mean they aren’t freaks”, “They speak in the same way they
    use programming languages: succinct and unsettlingly impersonal”
    Maybe the author couldn’t just take the hint that us CS majors
    don’t enjoy associating with pretentious people.

  • A

    AnonDec 11, 2013 at 6:54 pm

    Discretion aside, I think it behooves the author to
    consider the fact that an introductory level programming class is
    by no means any more indicative of the people within CS than an
    intro-level biology class is of pre-med students. Students will
    change majors or get weeded out. And of course, acting like four
    students are any way indicative of a diverse group of people is
    just silly—I would advise you take a stats class or eight.
    Furthermore, if your major change was to journalism or something,
    then I would advise you learn to write better. Your grammar is
    awful, and your writing style is worse. Your attempts at humor come
    off as ignorant, mean-spirited, and extremely bitter. Oh, and next
    time, do yourself a favor and use a pseudonym before publishing
    your next masterpiece.

  • L

    LDec 11, 2013 at 6:25 pm

    I’m a Comp Eng major and I’m on a sports team with lots of
    friends all around campus. I was also in a leadership class this
    quarter. I know how to talk to people. Ask my friends and I’m sure
    you’ll hear that I’m one of the more emotional, empathetic type
    rather than the anti-social type. Please don’t spread prejudices.
    As a gay man, (from your comment on the Whitney Houston thing) you
    should know how hurtful and inaccurate stereotypes are. Please
    strike up a conversation with me on the matter when I come in to
    practice in Canyonview (I’m the swimmer guy with really blonde
    hair). I’m sure that I can convince you that we
    computer-based-major students can indeed speak and “go outside to
    smell the roses” 🙂

  • E

    Eswar DhinakaranDec 11, 2013 at 6:17 pm

    It’s depressing that this slides for articles in
    newspapers. Albeit it is an opinions article, making vast
    generalizations about a major and a group of people who share a
    common interest shows a lack of research and a lack of critical
    analysis. My high school newspaper (which I was the columnist for)
    wrote better, current, well-researched and substantial articles
    than this one. This article has no statistics to back it, relies on
    personal evidence of the author, who obviously has not met many
    computer science majors. Please retract this article and consider
    (1) writing articles on topics that matter, (2) hiring actual
    writers and (3) refraining from perpetuating and creating

  • M

    MZDec 11, 2013 at 6:16 pm

    Let’s correct a few points. Maybe Computer Science is a
    super-major, but it’s definitely not a “new” super-major. Ask the
    people pursuing this major a little more than a decade ago, or, let
    me Google that for you,
    The second thing that really ought to be corrected is that this is
    not a trend for CS majors alone. Student in many other majors in
    science and engineering are doing the same thing. We simply find
    enjoyment in creating things, wherever we are. There’s a reason
    people call mad scientists mad. There’s nothing wrong with being a
    mad scientist huh? They get all the fame. Well, we’re just people
    who are like that. Talk to some other majors and see for yourself.
    Oh yeah, and talk to some grad students in science and engineering.
    We can all agree that they tend to get better jobs later on in life
    and thus have more freedom to enjoy life however they want for the
    rest of their life. Some people want to build up their career and
    potential early on, and enjoy everything they want later in life.
    Others like to enjoy earlier on in life and live a mediocre life
    afterwards. It’s a tradeoff between a few years and a few

  • T

    Tony ChanDec 11, 2013 at 6:11 pm

    Wow this article is so heartfelt and true that I swear this
    was a letter directed directly towards me. But it’s too late to
    change Kevin, I am in too deep. It’s that first sentence that
    really spoke to me.

  • K

    KDec 11, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    Wow, that was horrible. This “article” is lacking any real
    merit, coherent thoughts, valid sentence structure, general story
    telling, or evidence to support any of it’s claims. Calling it an
    article gives actual articles, and The Guardian, a bad name. This
    is more of a long, rambling Facebook post then anything else; what
    is the actual point being made here? That CS is bad, or just the
    people taking it? That technology is good but the people behind it
    are bad? That CS majors are smart but horrible people, so we should
    try to save them from themselves? Or is the actual point that this
    author took his first CS class, didn’t like it, did poorly because
    of it, and now feels the need to rage against it and all the people
    in it? Computer Science is more than just writing code in a
    “dungeon” with energy drinks; and moreover, Computer Science majors
    more than a few antisocial gamers. Claiming not to be one is fine,
    and unnecessary, since no one is making anyone else take any course
    or majors against their will. Take all the classes you want, enjoy
    your time in college and explore what’s out there; find out what
    your passion is and do it. Just don’t turn around and rail against
    those classes and it’s participants that you didn’t personally fit
    in with. It’s sorely unbecoming of someone who claims to be a
    Triton, and makes me sad that our great institution might be
    failing you. I hope The Guardian takes another look at this piece,
    and perhaps your overall writing “style”. This is not what UCSD is
    about, and The Guardian should not be condoning such a nonsensical
    and unintelligent stream of consciousness.

  • W

    WDec 11, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    Thank you so much for your rant. I really needed a break
    from studying for finals, and your article made me laugh real hard.
    I thought I’ve seen bad but wow this just takes the cake. Now I see
    why the colleges make us go through the gauntlet of writing
    classes. Major props for your passionate bias. I’m no computer
    science major, but damn even I feel insulted by your inflammatory
    comments. So what if a few individuals don’t see enough time
    outside, that does not mean you can condemn the rest of the flock
    for the minority. These guys just want to get their A, and dammit
    we didn’t come to UCSD for a 3.0 when we know we could do more. If
    you have issues with individual CS majors, then settle that
    yourself, but you’re doing nothing good to your position if you
    turn everyone against you. I really hope this is a joke because
    this article is just designed to piss off people.

  • E

    ElleDec 11, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    I can’t believe the Guardian let this thing publish. Still
    confusing their/there/they’re? Check yourself before you bash on
    others please.

  • A

    ADec 11, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    I don’t know about you, but I found this article pretty dam
    insulting with viscously exaggerated stereotypes reigning from
    beginning to end. As far as I know from direct experience in the
    “dungeon,” every derogatory claim you’ve made has been inaccurate.
    People working in the lab and in the major have been the sweetest,
    most helpful people in the world who not only are capable of
    spending hours hard at work on homework that they actually enjoy,
    but they participate in many activities outside of computer science
    as well. If anything, the multitude of people I have encountered in
    the lab and in the major have been the most vibrant individuals I
    have befriended in my stay so far at UCSD. I’m sorry your
    experience was not the same, but considering the limited time you
    spent in computer science related courses, please consider that the
    unfortunate experience you had may very well not represent the
    generality of this major.

  • M

    MDec 11, 2013 at 5:16 pm

    Your writing for the wrong newspaper. The one you’re
    looking for is called the Koala.

  • A

    ADec 11, 2013 at 1:17 am

    The atrocious grammar and writing. Did the Gaurdian really let this slide? I CANNOT.

  • Z

    Z.Dec 10, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    What a pathetic attempt for attention. Maybe remove all the cliches and perhaps the article would at least become tolerable.

  • W

    wutDec 10, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    The opening line was terrible, and it went downhill from there. Let’s talk about good writing, just kidding. We’re talking about you’re article, literally the opposite.

  • N

    NDec 9, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    What kind of 80’s move trope have I stumbled into; way to pass of “NERDZZZZZ” as an attempt at crafting original humor.

  • C

    C.Dec 8, 2013 at 9:29 am

    Thanks, for sharing your prejudices against computer science majors. Although I’m an “impersonal” computer science major who “doesn’t run” (aside from three marathons this year alone), I was actually quite offended by your remarks.